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How well do you know. . . .?

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R.I.P. Ed Thibault, December 18, 2012

19 Wednesday Dec 2012

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It is with profound sorrow that I post the sad news about the passing of my old friend Ed Thibault today. We had been friends for over 20 years and worked at the Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast together for many years. Ed and I began the Second Street Irregulars together in 1993. Affectionately called “Mr. Lizzie”, Ed was the go- to guy on all things Lizzie back in the 80s and 90s. He gave tours of the Borden home, visited schools and civic groups and was never too tired to sit and chat about the case. We played Mr. and Mrs. Borden for many years. The photo below was for Monsterquest 2008, our last time together in the roles.

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I am missing my old friend already. Ed had been suffering for a very long time with respiratory and heart ailments and had spent the past 6 weeks in Charlton Hospital before being released to a rehab and nursing establishment. News of funeral arrangements will be forthcoming. Lizzie Borden had a champion in Ed who never believed she was guilty.

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Ed accepting his Lifetime Achievement Award from the Second Street Irregulars at the Q Club, 2011.

October and Lizzie Borden Go Together Like Peanut Butter and Jelly

23 Tuesday Oct 2012

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First, a big thank you to followers and readers of Warps & Wefts as we mark the 600th post since 2007. Comments and emails are much-appreciated.

Well, just as seen posted here every October, Lizzie is back in time for Halloween in every fun house, horror venue, costume contest, and not more than a few really BAD films. Usually seen in a red and black dress with puffy leg-o’-mutton sleeves and red hair, she is swinging a bloody hatchet- or even more often an axe, and looking maniacal.  Sadly, a really intriguing mystery goes missing in all the gore, and much misinformation about the case gets repeated as Gospel truth which makes a lasting impression. The true story is as scary as anything:  two harmless old people savagely slashed and bludgeoned in the head right in the safety and comfort of their family home;  home- a place which should be the haven of safety. If this can happen there- then who is safe?  Horrifying thought. Rod Serling and Alfred Hitchcock got it right.  Horror truly comes in the unexpected violence which intrudes into the safe and simple day-to-day, ordinary life.

So this year, W&W is not going to comment on Halloween Lizzie doings all over America. Rather, try having a really good historical scare by reading the source documents on the case.  The witness statements, inquest, preliminary, and trial are all available on Amazon, and some free online.  And while you are waiting for your Amazon delivery, here is something interesting to read.

http://www.sacbee.com/2012/10/17/4919351/research-uncovers-evil-runs-in.html

Happy Halloween.

Jury photo up for auction

13 Thursday Sep 2012

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Swann Auction Galleries in New York is selling an oversized original photograph of the jury that acquited Lizzie Borden. It’s Lot 207 in the October 2, 2012 sale. Estimate is $800.00-$1,200.00. John O’Neil New Bedford, MA 1893 -photographer.  The photo below is the one familiar to most and was given as a parting gift to Lizzie after her acquittal.

Officer Peter Gaskell Bence

24 Friday Aug 2012

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Eli Bence, Peter Gaskell Bence

One has to wonder if Eli Bence consulted his half-brother Peter Gaskell Bence in the matter of giving evidence to the Fall River Police Department regarding the attempt by the woman he identified as Lizzie to purchase prussic acid on August 3rd.  Peter Bence had received a political appointment to the Fall River Police Department in 1878 and served as a patrolman until 1880.  He is pictured above in his policeman’s uniform.

The Bences were a large and close-knit family.  In 1892 Peter Bence, a widower, was preparing to marry again to Emma Macomber on August 25th.  His first wife, Sarah Jane Ball Bence had died in childbirth at their home at 117 Bay Street in 1890.  The house is still standing.  The topic of the Borden case, Eli’s evidence, and trial must surely have been a hot topic of discussion within those walls.  In 1893 Peter and his new wife moved into 56 Palmer Street, a duplex owned by the Harringtons, where they lived until after his second wife passed away.  Peter died in 1919 in Newport where he had been spending his last days with his son.

After leaving the police force, Bence tried his hand at mill work as a weaver, many years as a carpenter and finally in later life, a janitor at the Mount Hope Elementary School.  Carpentry was his first love and he did decorative interior woodworking at the B.M.C. Durfee High School and the Granite Block downtown. Boat building was a hobby.

Peter Bence, born in 1849, and his sister Ellen were born in Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England. Ellen died as an infant and Peter immigrated with his father William and stepmother Sarah in 1854.  The family were living in Braintree when Eli Bence was born.

Peter and his wives are buried in the family plot in Oak Grove Cemetery, next to his parents.  He does not have a marker.

*Photo above and some data courtesy of Ancestry.com and the Bence family descendants

Bence in later years

24 Friday Aug 2012

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Eli Bence

As mentioned in an earlier article on Warps and Wefts, http://lizziebordenwarpsandwefts.com/mutton-eaters-february-article/, Eli Bence and his testimony about Lizzie Borden coming into the pharmacy where he was a counter clerk on the day before the murders was bombshell testimony.  Although allowed through the Preliminary, Bence’s important revelations did not make it into the 1893 trial, being ruled as “too far remote in time” from the actual killings.  No prussic acid was found in the bodies of either Borden, not surprising as the lady who inquired for the deadly poison could not obtain it without a prescription.  Perhaps Bence’s and the testimony of the dress burning incident by Alice Russell might have turned the tide for Lizzie, had either been allowed.

Bence moved to New Bedford and set up his own drug store by 1894, then after the death of his wife, remarried a Fairhaven girl, Annie Coggshell Maxfield, whose father ran a successful plumbing concern on Bridge St.  Bence eventually moved to Pittsfield, Massachusetts with son Roy by his first wife Sarah Hayhurst, and his son Maxfield by his second wife Annie.  They also had a little girl Priscilla who died very young. Bence died at his Pittsfield home after suffering a stroke while riding in a car returning from the Berkshires with his son and daughter in law and wife on May 4, 1915.  He is buried in Fairhaven by the side of his wife Annie and their daughter Priscilla.

The only photograph we have seen of Bence until now has been of the earnest, 27 year old who tried to give his testimony at Lizzie’s trial.

Thanks to the Barrett Family and Ancestry.com, an older Eli is shown below, photo taken in New Bedford, year unknown.

Bence’s parents, William and Sarah are buried in Oak Grove Cemetery, Fall River.

William Bence, Eli’s father who was active in Globe area politics.

A medicine dispensing bottle from the Bence Pharmacy in New Bedford.

And the results are in for August 4th

18 Saturday Aug 2012

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After the annual August 4th dramatization by the Pear Essential Players, visitors on tour at the Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast Museum were asked to fill out an exit poll and give any comments they wished to leave.  Some of the results were surprising and humorous.

Lizzie Guilty  55, Lizzie Innocent  11, Lizzie undecided or neutral  1,  Uncle John Morse Guilty or Involved  24,  Billy Borden, Guilty  1, Typhoid Mary  1, Emma Borden Guilty  1,  Hired Professional Killer 1, Bridget Sullivan Guilty  6, Uncle John and Bridget together  1.

Motives ran the gamut: greed and hatred of stepmother, money and revenge, secret love affair between Lizzie and her Uncle John, mental instability,  resentment, payback, anger, jealousy, incest, left out of will, freedom,  and envy of her wealthy girlfriends on the Hill.

Other suspects considered were:  an evicted tenant of Andrew Borden’s, and Lizzie and Bridget working together, Bridget aiding in the cover-up.

One very interesting motive for murder proposed was the effect that “overly busy patterns on the wall paper and carpeting brought on mental stress”, as did the killing of Lizzie’s “pet raven” which was probably confused with the pigeons Andrew Borden killed by wringing their necks.

Under the category of weapon, all agreed on HATCHET, with one writer filling in the word “Sufficient”!

For the most part all agreed that the murders would never be solved, with only two claiming confidence that they would be.

After the performances ended, there was a drawing for an overnight stay for two at the B&B.  The Aruda family, who live in Fall River, won.  The cast of 16 was the largest ever since the B&B opening in 1996.  Carol Ann Simone debuted as Lizzie this year to an appreciative crowd.  Tickets had sold out by lunch time.

Post mortem photographs on display for the first time

03 Friday Aug 2012

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http://www.heraldnews.com/newsletter/x1225366721/New-and-never-before-seen-Borden-items-post-mortem-pictures-on-exhibit-at-Historical-Society 

The Fall River Historical Society special August-4-Sept 30 exhibit will display, for the first time, the post mortem photographs of Abby and Andrew Borden.  Other rare and never-displayed items from the trial and trial lawyers will be on exhibit.

A Weekend with Lizzie Borden Not to Be Missed

01 Wednesday Aug 2012

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For those who cannot get enough of the Borden Case, this will be a four-star weekend featuring the annual dramatization at the house on Second Street ( tickets on sale now at the Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast) and a VERY special exhibit which opens on August 4th and runs through September 30th at the Fall River Historical Society. For Letterboxers, a special letterbox will be hidden in Fall River to mark the 120th anniversary of the historic crime. Atlasquest.com will have the clue, so bring your stamp and notepad, an inkpad is provided in the box. To see the clue type Fall River, MA in the locator box at the Atlasquest.com site. Got Lizzie?  And how!

Busy with Lizzie on a Sunday Afternoon

29 Sunday Jul 2012

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Brinke Stevens

The house on Second Street had a special weekend guest when horror-thriller actress Brinke Stevens was in town for a premiere of her latest film at Durfee High.  Brinke is working on a new Borden-related film project where she will play Abby Borden.  Today she visited her “namesake” at Oak Grove and had a whirlwind tour of all Borden sites and sights in the city including Maplecroft, the Fall River Historical Society and the Gray-Whitehead Fourth Street house. She went back to California tonight with plenty of reading material, leaving lots of new friends back in Fall River.

With LeeAnn back at the house

Pear Essential Players One Day Only

29 Sunday Jul 2012

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Once a year the only dedicated amateur Bordenian thespian troupe gathers to put on their dramatization of events at the Borden house on August 4th.  There will be a new Lizzie this year and a few other new faces.  The amateur performers come together from all over the country only once a year on the 4th for this event.  The group was founded in 1993 and the cast has increased every year with this year’s cast featuring 16 character roles.  Tickets may be reserved by calling the Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast Museum at 508-675-7333.  Major credit cards accepted.  Tickets can be reserved for you in the giftshop for pick-up on the day of the event or purchased during giftshop hours.  Don’t be disappointed-tickets sell out fast!

Abby Borden- Shelley Dziedzic

Andrew Borden- Don Sykes

Lizzie Borden- Carol Ann Simone

Emma Borden- Barbara Morrissey

Uncle John Morse- Joe Radza

Bridget Sullivan- Suzann Rogers

Marshal Hilliard- Ray Mitchell

Officer Phil Harrington- Mark Lomastro

Dr. Bowen- Jack Sheridan

Mrs. Phebe Bowen- Ellen Borden

Addie Churchill- JoAnne Giovino

Dr. Dolan- Michael Shogi

Miss Manning- Eliza Marks

Nellie Bly, Intrepid Globe-Spanning Reporter- Katrina Shogi

Undertaker Winward- Jerry Pacheco

Alice Russell- Kristin Pepe

The Night Sky on August 4, 1892

28 Saturday Jul 2012

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http://choyt48.home.comcast.net/~choyt48/jcayer_run.htm

Mr. Ayers was the kingpin of patent medicines in the mid-Victorian era.  Lowell, Massachusetts was the center of his far-reaching enterprise and his annual almanac publication was seen in the kitchen and privies of New England homes for decades, usually hanging on a nail by a piece of string.   August 4th shows the sunrise at 4:55 a.m., sunset at 7:15 p.m in the far right Massachusetts column.  Alice Russell was right about one thing- anyone tampering with the Borden’s milk can on the north side steps would have been seen at 5 a.m., provided someone was looking!  The full moon was on the 8th, which would have shone over the holding tomb containing the bodies of Abby and Andrew Borden.

The Lizzie Borden Rag

27 Friday Jul 2012

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August 4th is Coming Soon !

18 Wednesday Jul 2012

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The Pear Essential Players Present

A Dramatization of August 4th on Second Street 

Saturday, August 4, 2012

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The Lizzie Borden Bed & Breakfast Museum

Turn back the clock to the morning of August 4, 1892.  The bodies of Abby and Andrew Borden have been discovered cruelly murdered at their home on Second Street.  The friends and neighbors have gathered around daughters Emma and Lizzie as the police and doctors collect evidence and question the inhabitants of #92.  Can you help the police solve the mystery?  Who could have committed such a grisly deed? 

A drawing for the day’s tour visitors will be held after the last performance for a Gift Certificate for Two for a night at the Bed & Breakfast.  The Drawing is at 4:15 p.m. Follow the Pear Essential Players on Facebook and at http://pearessentialproductions.org/ 

Abby Borden- Shelley Dziedzic

Andrew Borden- Don Sykes

Lizzie Borden- Carol Ann Simone

Emma Borden- Barbara Morrissey

Uncle John Morse- Joe Radza

Bridget Sullivan- Suzann Rogers

Marshal Hilliard- Ray Mitchell

Officer Phil Harrington- Mark Lomastro

Dr. Bowen- Jack Sheridan

Mrs. Phebe Bowen- Ellen Borden

Addie Churchill- JoAnne Giovino

Dr. Dolan- Michael Shogi

Miss Manning- Eliza Marks

Nellie Bly, Intrepid Globe-Spanning Reporter- Katrina Shogi

Undertaker Winward- Jerry Pacheco

Alice Russell- Kristin Pepe

A new Miss Lizzie is making her debut!  Tickets go on sale July 15th! Call 508-675-7333 to reserve.

On the beach Summer 1892

17 Tuesday Jul 2012

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It’s hard to imagine Lizzie or Emma in these on Horseneck Beach or in the water at Fort Phoenix, Fairhaven.  The fashions are from Godey’S Lady’s Book, August 1892 issue 746. Figure 12 is a “bathing dress of of red serge  trimmed with rows of white braid.  Vest of white serge trimed with red braid.  Sailor collar of the same with anchors embroidered in the corners.  A thick cord is passed under the collar and knotted in front.” Figure 13 “bathing shoe of checked flannel with golosh toe and heel.”

Especially interesting is the bathing cloak, Fig. 11; “These cloaks are always used abroad to conceal the bathing dress when walking down to the beach, and they are now appearing at many watering places, especially the quieter ones.  This model is of bath toweling trimmed with a Greek key pattern of navy blue braid, collar of blue linen.” Naturally Lizzie or Emma would not dream of “mixed bathing” with rambunctious males but would keep to the appointed Ladies’ Hours at the beach.

Send for Mr. Walsh!

10 Tuesday Jul 2012

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One very good reason the Borden case has made such a long-lasting impression in the public consciousness for so many decades must surely be the unforgettable crime scene photos of Abby and Andrew Borden.  For these we have James A. Walsh to thank for forever capturing the brutal wounds inflicted upon the elderly couple.. Even in black and white, the victims and the grisly scenarios which unfolded that day in 1892 still fascinate and horrify today.

James Walsh was a portrait photographer- one of many with shops on North and South Main Street in the 1890s.  It was fashionable to have photographs taken of all family members, individual portraits, groups, youngsters and even infants.  Post mortem photographs were also commonly done to preserve one last glimpse of a precious family member recently- departed.

It is unknown just who on the police force decided the Borden homicides were important enough to be carefully photographed but Mr. Walsh and his camera were sent for on the afternoon of August 4th.  His home was on nearby Rodman Street and the studio was at 66 South Main, neither very far from the Borden residence on Second Street.  The police departments in most cities did not include a crime scene photographer on their payroll.  It is doubtful Mr. Walsh could ever imagine that so many years later, those memorable photos would still be carefully studied by so many interested in the case.

The prints online of the crime scenes, interiors and exteriors of #92 Second Street do not do justice to the original prints held in the Fall River Historical Society archives where the details are much clearer and sharper. Unfortunately, by the time Mr. Walsh arrived late in the afternoon, the bodies of both victims had been examined and moved and so the positions seen in the photographs were not exactly as they were following the attacks. Mrs. Borden had been turned over and back at least once, and Mr. Borden’s pockets had been gone through to see if burglary had been a motive. It is even likely that he was arranged in a more decorous manner on the sofa for the photo, befitting his stature in the city.  His arm is clearly propped up with a pillow and it is likely his slip-on Congress boots were put back on his feet.   It is hard to imagine police forensic work today without the all-important crime scene photos. During the Jack the Ripper investigation, one policeman suggested photographing the victim’s eyes as the last thing seen would still be imprinted on the retina! Those photos have also immortalized the Ripper case.

Cartes de visites (CDVs) or cabinet photos by Walsh are fairly common on Ebay in the 4-5 dollar range and are fun to collect.  Often the back of the card is as interesting as the front; Walsh’s were very elegant. Who knows- more photos of the Borden family might still be out there! (scans below W&W archive with thanks to Joseph Soares)

 

Lizzie’s favorite hymn

19 Tuesday Jun 2012

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My Ain Countrie, Vida Turner

Much has been speculated about why Lizzie chose to have this particular hymn sung at her wake at Maplecroft.  Here is yet another, and very romantic version about the background on the hymn- one which probably appealed to Lizzie who was somewhat sentimental.

http://www.hymntime.com/tch/htm/m/a/i/mainctry.htm

Vida Turner, who sang the hymn as requested, then never mentioned it again, would be amazed that it is still a topic of interest and discussion so many years later.  Perhaps there is no secret message here- it may simply have been the romantic story behind the writing of it which captured Lizzie’s attention.

City Tomb at Oak Grove

19 Tuesday Jun 2012

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Referred to in old city documents as the City Tomb, the strange structure built into a hill at Oak Grove Cemetery near the entrance is more recently called the holding tomb.  There are two similar structures in the cemetery, the other being only slightly east of the Borden-Almy plot.  The purpose of these tombs was to provide a place in winter where coffins could be stored until the ground thawed enough for a grave to be dug.  There were also other circumstances when a coffin could not be immediately buried, either because of a dispute as to plot ownership, police matters which might require further investigation, or a delayed burial for legal reasons. Early regulations going back to 1856 define time limits for how long a body was allowed to remain in the holding tomb, the shortest of ten days being in the summer months. Except by order of the mayor, the deceased was required to be a citizen of Fall River to be held in the City Tomb.

Today the holding tomb contains gasoline for the lawn equipment and is locked, its former use no longer required.  The descent into the holding bays is steep.  There are four bays on each side of the underground vault, each capable of holding three coffins on tiered shelves inside the bays.

(photo, Ginny Lahman)

Notably, Andrew and Abby Borden spent a week awaiting their full autopsy (done on August 11th in the Ladies’ Comfort Station near the front gate) inside the structure with heads intact, and nearly another week, thanks to Dr. Dolan, with heads removed in the holding tomb before burial at last in the family plot. Even in hot weather, the temperature deep inside the holding tomb remains very cool.

(photo, Ginny Lahman)

(photo, Ginny Lahman)

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And old time friends and twilight plays, And starry nights and sunny days. Come trooping up the misty ways, When my fires burn low.

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Memorable Lizzie Inquest Testimony

Q. Beside that, do you know of anybody that your father had bad feelings toward or who had bad feelings toward your father? A. I know of one man who has not been friendly with him. They have not been friendly for years. Q. Who? A. Mr. Hiram C. Harrington. Q. What relation is he to him? A. He is my father's brother-in-law. Q. Your mother's brother? A. My father's only sister married Mr. Harrington. Q. Anybody else that was on bad terms with your father or that your father was on bad terms with? A. Not that I know of.

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There's no evidence of guilt, Lizzie Borden, That should make your spirit wilt, Lizzie Borden; Many do not think that you Chopped your father's head in two, It's so hard a thing to do, Lizzie Borden. You have borne up under all, Lizzie Borden. With a mighty show of gall, Lizzie Borden; But because your nerve is stout Does not prove beyond a doubt That you knocked the old folks out, Lizzie Borden. A.L. Bixby

Lizzie and those pigeons

Lizzie's Inquest Testimony

Q. Can you tell of the killing of any animal? Or any other operation that would lead to their being cast there, with blood on them?
A. No sir. He killed some pigeons in the barn last May or June.
Q. What with?
A. I don't know, but I thought he wrung their necks.
Q. What made you think so?
A. I think he said so.
Q. Did anything else make you think so?
A. All but three or four had their heads on. That is what made me think so.
Q. Did all of them come into the house?
A. I think so.
Q. Those that came into the house were all headless?
A. Two or three had them on.
Q. Were any with their heads off?
A. Yes sir.
Q. Cut off or twisted off?
A. I don't know which.
Q. How did they look?
A. I don't know, their heads were gone, that is all.
Q. Did you tell anybody they looked as though they were twisted off?
A. I don't remember whether I did or not. The skin, I think, was very tender. I said, "Why are these heads off?" I think I remember of telling somebody that he said they twisted off.
Q. Did they look as if they were cut off?
A. I don't know. I did not look at that particularly.
Q. Is there anything else besides that that would lead, in your opinion so far as you can remember, to the finding of instruments in the cellar with blood on them?
A. I know of nothing else that was done.

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